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SANDRA MACKAY II I look at that letter now after being
dumped by my lawyer and think , boy what a fool I am. My lawyer said,
"I called him too much" Well moron if you had returned my
calls at a reasonable time maybe I wouldn't feel obligated, and if you
had drafted a legal agreement that was more conducive to me not dealing
with my psycho ex-husband (who likes to spy on me from my back yard,
what no life?). My lawyer's name is Daniel, so I told him that if I were
God and he were Daniel in the pit praying for help, I'd say, "Oh
sure, let me help" I'd unseal the lions' mouths and throw scorpions
into the pit for good measure. I'd instruct the scropions to leave the
lions alone of course. He hung up on me. Lawyers, they should all have a special place in hell for them. They'd have to because the devil wouldn't even trust them to run rampent. Keep up the good work. Sandra MacKay 8/14/02 Not to sound like a bleeding heart liberal, but I checked this website out of a morbid sense of curiosity. I really don't see the humor in anyone's death. This is taking the sport of lawyer bashing to a new low. We seemed to forget that these "lawyers" also had family and friends who cared about them. They were lawyers, but they were also people who had lives beyond their professions. Poking fun of lawyers is okay, just as poking fun of doctors, priests is okay, but the latter professions seemed to have line drawn to how far you can take the joke. No one would make fun of killing a doctor or a priest, but for some reason it seems to be okay to cross this line when it comes to lawyers. For the most part, they have earned their infamous reputations because the system is set up where the more you pay the better your chances of winning in court. And, lawyers need to take responsibility for this unfair system because it is a system motivated by greed, thus giving them their notourious reputations. They haven't done themselves any favors by establishing a "tyranny of billable hours" as one Canadian judge described it. Nonetheless, I don't find humor in someone's death, even lawyers. But it is a free country and I can choose to go elsewhere on the web, but I felt like I should vent my discontent for your website. Best Wishes, Sandra MacKay PS - By the way, you should mention on your website somewhere that Canada has more lawyers per capita than any other modern nation in the world. We are just so fortunate-not! 5/12/02 Wow! I can't believe this site exists! Right On!! I finally have a place where I can vent my frustration and anger. Women and lawyers have some kind of sick symbiotic relationship. It seems that in this country all a woman (ex-wife, daughter, boss, etc.) has to do is come up with any lie about a man and there's a lawyer right there crawling out of the cesspool to make it stick and make lots of money. It's ironic that the world's original leech would accuse me of being a leech. I can't even get my lawyer to protect me against such crap because they are all good ol' boys. Lawyers are scum and should be beaten as part of their education! I could go on but I don't want to make the site administrator nervous. Actually a better punishment would be to subject them to their own venomous tactics. Thanks for the chance to vent. It was very cathartic. One Angry Man
11/20/01 Scathing Criticism!! that's a funny website--if you are a stupid Fundamentalist terrorist who hates democracy, Western Civilization and all things decent. The First Amendment lets you write this crap. Just remember that-- if it weren't for lawyers (who drafted the Bill of Rights), you would be hanging from a tree right now. Lawyers and cops-- you hate em until you need em. I'd like to see you defend yourself when you get put on trial for something-- good luck with that.--or maybe you prefer despots to run around executing people without trials... that would be great, huh? wow. Everyone likes hating something. hate is much easier than love. Good luck practicing your hate. You are getting pretty good at it for a total idiot! :-) Zev Eigen Wow, Zev, you have opened my eyes. Love plus democracy plus all things decent equals LAWYERS! How could I have been so blind? By the way, are you on Prozac or Wellbutrin? 4/29/00 LOVE YOUR SITE!!!!!! A message to lawyers everywhere: Times are changing and your little ol' law degree can't stop a bullet, a knife, a car, a fire........or my mean, drug-dealing, drug-informing, carbon based life form ex husband whom YOU, and others LIKE YOU, protect. Sooner or later he will turn on you (call your lawyer and see if it will stop him!!!) Your job has NOTHING TO DO WITH JUSTICE. If there were real justice in this world all lawyers (and my ex husband) would have spontaneously dropped dead about 15 minutes ago. However, I still have hope that the drug lords he continues to rat on will figure it out..........I'm sure they wouldn't mind taking out a few oxygen wasting lawyers while they're at it (with all the Rain Forest problems and all). I bet a lawyers mother tells her friend her kid works in a whorehouse.........less embarassing. BGT
2/17/00
Why is it that no other profession and I use that term with unrestrained carelessness, attracts such antipathy? Like Cinderella, me thinks the shoe fitteth perfectly.
As for pathetic comments to the negative, Hans Solo would no doubt remark, "Must have got pretty close to the truth to get her all riled up like that, huh kid?"
Whilst society still has to suffer their presence, I remain convinced that right will out and this colony of lepers will eventually choke on the ignominious swill on which they so lovingly feed. Keep the onslaught coming.
Love
Snookums 1/7/00 This is the greatest site I have ever visited. I believe every evil facet
of our world may be attributed to a lawyer. Stacy 11/25/99 I really liked your site. when I read all those stories...I was thrilled with the gory details...how great that must have felt for those poor souls as they shot round after round into those animals that make a living off the misery of human flesh.... Paul Thank you Paul, your touching letter will serve as a reminder, that today, on Thanksgiving, we do have a lot to be thankful for. 11/16/99 Lawyers do nothing but increase the cost of every thing we buy and inhibit everything we do in the name of justice when in fact its to increase their net worth. Its so blatant that to try and vilify it is preposterous. When they find they can not hack it in law they become politicians now there is a real step up, pork and freebies, that's real productivity for you. Get a real job you leeches! H.W. Swenson III 11/6/99 I wonder what the sense is of this website! Better start studying law yourself and see how hard it is to finish lawschool and apply the law to real factpatterns. Most lawyers are decent and hard working people who are an asset to society. as they are trying to find some justice or at least fairness for many people. It is disgusting what you are doing and just a waste of time and moreover frivolous! George Klenk George, on behalf of factpatterns everywhere, thank you. 7/8/99 Hey folk: RKB 7/2/99 Speaking as someone who spent ten long and agonizing years working for two major Los Angeles law firms, let me just say that your site is terrific. While shlogging around in those well-decorated dens of foul play I don't think I met a single attorney (of the small group whose presence I could stomach on a regular basis) who was completely proud of his or her chosen profession. In fact, many seemed downright disgusted by it. I have to say that I am really quite baffled by the negative comments surfers have sent you. What on earth were they expecting when they clicked onto a site addressed "deadlawyers"? Maybe you should call it "lotsadeadlawyersandnotjustthereallyreallybadones" P. Quinn 6/13/99 LOVED "DEAD LAWYERS" pete Beenleigh Police (just up the road from you) 6/3/99 Dear deadlawyers.com: 5/12/99 Dear deadlawyers.com: 5/12/99 I stumbled across your site and thought I would contribute. If a group of people are labeled as bad then that is prejudice. We all know not all white people are smart just as we know not all white people are dumb. You may not know any good lawyers but I know a few that are upright. Judges and attorneys as well as elected and appointed officials that are are attorneys, I agree generally misguided. But it's not right to say all are bad. Trust in God not the money or attorneys. jw 4/8/99 Guys, I know that there are bad (evil, unethical, slimy) lawyers, like there are bad cops, bad judges, bad used car dealers, bad doctors, bad dry cleaners, bad pawnbrokers, bad mechanics, bad vacuum cleaner salesmen etc., etc., etc. But there also are good (ethical, conscientious, truthful) lawyers, just like there are good cops, good judges, good used car dealers, good doctors, good dry cleaners, good pawnbrokers, etc, etc, etc. A lot of lawyers take very low paying public interest jobs (such as working for Legal Aid), and some wind up earning less than minimum wage for the hours they work for people who can't afford the kind of fees that lawyers normally charge. Other lawyers voluntarily sacrifice the time they could spend on paying clients to take pro bono (free) cases for people that cannot afford to pay attorney fees. Look around and see how many lawyers are coaching Little League, how many lawyers are on citizen action boards, how many lawyers are Sunday school teachers and church board members, how many lawyers work on Habitat for Humanity houses, and how many lawyers work to make your community better. I agree that there are significant problems with our legal system and problems with the legal profession, but don't wish us all dead just because you've had a bad experience with a particular lawyer! Adrienne L. Anderson You left out bad AND good ax murderers. 3/29/99 Well, hey maybe if people like you were murderd then we could all laugh to. It doesn't matter about a person's profession, no one deserves to die over it. Your sick in the head. Dkh10680@ (you know what).com Thank you for your insightful letter and, by the way, you did a marvelous job on the O.J. jury. 3/29/99 i dont think this page is funny at all. it makes me sick to my stomach. my friend, brian barry, was killed at the age of 21. i dont see how this is at all funny. what are you for a living?? a garbage man?? or do you just sit at home and put innocent people's names on your anal website?? it's people like you that i just want to spit on when i see you on the streets. a friend of barry 2/27/99 My only question is, are you getting charged for all the lawyers' time they are spending to write your site? Amy 2/24/99 Hhmm, I am of two minds about your site. I think some of the things you list aren't funny -- lawyers getting killed by estranged husbands? I mean, lawyers are mostly bad, but domestic violence isn't funny. I also agree with the correspondent who said that news items about lawyers fighting against government corruption (e.g. South America) who get assassinated -- that's not funny, either. They're bucking the tide over there, as opposed to the legal folks here who so often try to drag us down. However...I didn't visit the site just to denigrate it. I can relate, you know? I've been a legal secretary in both the U.S. and Canada (Canadian lawyers are even worse). I'm surprised more legal secretaries haven't attacked their bosses, judging by the things I've witnessed. I'm not only a lawyer-hater, I'm also a client! My lawyer is supposed to be tying up a personal injury case I filed over two years ago. With one insurance company, he did so little work that I ended up settling that aspect of the case myself. And even then he tried to take a large cut. Lazy bum. I hear also that you're related to lawyers? I feel sorry for you...I
fortunately only have in-lawyers in my family. Whew. Our in-lawyer is a One last thing -- please consider including not just lawyers, but the idiots who tie up our court system with their stupid cases (like the jaywalker who sued you, for instance?). I had a serious injury and couldn't work for months after a car accident, which makes me really disgusted with those people who try to pull workers' compensation fraud or other cheap stunts like that. They are just as much to blame as their lawyers who take on the cases: without the demand in this country, do you think we'd have so many lawyers? (I hear we have something like 1/2 the total lawyers in the world?) And there are other folks who deserve raspberries, whether they get
injured or not. Like that grandmother who won millions from McDonalds because of the hot
coffee she spilled on herself. (What do you bet she still drives up to the window and
orders some black sludge, now that she's a millionaire, just in case "lightning
strikes twice"?!) I also I know you won't print this though, because I'm blaming non-lawyers: who do often actually CHOOSE to FILE cases and get ugly, you know? It's just like those girls who beat up the gal their husband's stepping out with, instead of taking a giant rubber mallet to the big lug himself. Just call me, Gabby 2/21/99 GENTLEMEN, WHAT MORE CAN I SAY,JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.ATTORNEYS COME OUT OF LAW SCHOOL WITH CHIPS ON THEIR SHOULDERS , THEY LOOK DOWN ON THE GENERAL POPULATION AS SUB HUMANS, THEY ARE TROUBLEMAKERS, LIARS,SPINSTERS, UNETHICAL,DIABOLICAL BASTARDS, AND THEY DEFINITELY DESTROY PEOPLES LIVES. BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR ALLIES (JUDGES) THEY HAVE DEFAMED THE US CONSTITUTION. THEY ARE THE SECRET WARDS OF THE COURT, THEY MISREPRESENT THEIR CLIENTS,CLIENTS RIGHTS ARE CONSTANTLY VIOLATED. THEY ABUSE THE GRAND JURY SYSTEM. THE LAW IS THE WEAPON-- THE COURTROOM IS THE BATTLEFIELD-- THE JUDGE IS YOUR ENEMY---------- YOUR OWN LAWYER IS THE ENEMY SPY. Joe Arcuri 2/19/99 Your site is not funny. Brian Colucci Brian, I had overlooked the fact that lawyers were truly all that stood between the people and a despotic government! Thank you so much for reminding me. I was going to drive over and thank you personally, but on the way I was stopped at a seatbelt check point, tested positive for heroin because I had eaten a poppy seed bagel, and had all of my property, including my car, seized prior to trial. I hope this note will be sufficient expression of my newly awakened esteem for the legal profession. P.S. That deadwhitetrash URL is a damn clever idea and I'm sure you will follow though on it like you would a K-Mart slip and fall. I look forward to seeing more of your brilliant satire on the Internet. 2/10/99 Heh, heh. As a law student, I should be slightly offended by your site. Actually, however, as a law student, I only have one eager question to ask: What about dead law professors? Please find some good dead law professor stories. Please. And don't print my name. I fear serious reprisals if you do. Seriously, I could become one academically dead law student. Scott X (not his real last name) 2/7/99 Why is it the first time I hear about Ed Willey is from reading your site and not from CNN? Great page man, keep it up. Abel Dean www.deadlawyers.com, news you can trust. 1/22/99 Enjoyed your listing of the dead and almost-dead lawyers. But aren't there a lot of Clinton attorneys you left out??? JDH Miami Shores 1/18/99 Great site, however you must focus on lawyers who were killed just because they were lawyers, not because they were son of a bitches. Ted Ted, your Indian name is, Splits Hairs. 1/8/99 Do you think you could put up a wish list of dead lawyers, you know some place where one of the psychos could go and find a deserving victim instead of some poor schmuck who is in the wrong place at the wrong time? I could give you the first 6. The list would include both of my ex wive's divorce lawyers, my divorce lawyers, and both the judges who heard the cases. As soon as I get back from bankruptcy court I can give you some more names. I think it would be a great service to any community that has the two worst kind of scum, lawyers and criminals ( o.k. it's the same thing ). I look forward to someday seeing a new section added to your site. Tony L. 1/3/99 I love the website! In that regard, the website makes a major omission by not mentioning Judge
Joseph Force Crater, a New York City judge who disappeared without a trace on 6 August
1930, amidst the smell of political corruption. Judge Crater is a great exemplar for
some of the bums on the bench. Would that they also disappear without a trace! Kenneth H. Ryesky, Esq. 1/1/99 As in most cases there is my truth and their truth. In deadlawyers.com I only see the truth, as a victim of divorce, workers comp, and bankruptcy courts, I have been to the pond and seen the scum. Thirty years without needing a lawyer, then boom, six of them. I also would like to see a dead judges page as most judges were once lawyers. Good graphics and good work. Peter 12/31/98 How great of a job you are doing. How about a list of lawyers per
city in Florida? My husband's ex-wife's attorney is a scumbag. She is
schizophrenic and her attorney followed every lie she ever told him as truth.
He also encouraged her to kidnap both kids when my husband had custody of them. He
even encouraged her to enroll them in school while on vacation so that the kids didn't
want to come home. He also defended her when Child Supportive Services took her to
court about 10 times for never paying child support and she never did. Maybe more
categories with stories like this will get you a million hits, believe me. Print the
names and I assure you that all the groups concerning "fathers groups" will be
hitting your site and giving you more stories. Look for women for fatherhood in the net. 11/30/98 re: Truth in advertising Dear Deadlawyers, I must state my objection to the unhappy endings in some of your stories. Several of the lawyers you mentioned survived. Please deliver what you promise--only include dead lawyers, please. PrarieGurl As we at deadlawyers are, like the legal profession itself, self regulated, we will ignore the obvious truth of this observation and continue doing business as usual. 10/29/98 The possibilities for public service from a web site like this should not be underestimated. Good Luck! Your childhood neighbor, Marc Manfredi 10/25/98 Lawyers Law... could still be as simple as the Ten, This site conceived - we could not know its, 12/25/98 I became aware of your site as a result of the Herald December 23, 1998 article (Page 8b-Broward edition). It is interesting and amusing. If that is your only purpose, that is fine. If you wish to try and do something about the harm that the legal profession is inflicting on this Nation you may care to read the Federalist papers 1995-1997 that I wrote on the subject. Those Papers have to do with the unconstitutional control that lawyers have over all government. The site is www.constitutionalguardian.com. Like you I sponsor the site out of my own funds. Unlike you however I do have a desire and a hope that something of a serious nature can be done to correct the problem before we all lose our freedoms. Ron Bibace 12/23/98 I picked up my local Herald paper this morning and saw an article about your site. Naturally I had to run to my computer and look it up. As a remarried wife of 10 years I have spent the last three years in our local courthouse for a custody issue. I am sure that nobody can truly appreciate your site unless they have had the pleasure and financial failure of spending so much time in court that I truly thought of renting an apartment closer to the courthouse!! Anyways, I have a suggestion for your web page. Have a section on Miami Judges. Really, I have searched the web over and over again for such a site. But the site should be about stupid, reckless and just plain bullshit decisions that these judges make. I would love to see a DEAD JUDGES PAGE. Happy Holidays, M.R. 12/23/98 Dear Dead, I hope you will take the time to research Florida in depth, as this state has a long history of lawyer assassinations and suicides. I also hope you will separate the lawyers who may have died as a result of their work against any government bureaucracy/abuse from the lawyers who were killed by disgruntled clients. You may also want to include a section on judges who have been convicted of criminal activities. After all, the abuses which most people complain about could not happen if there weren't judges willing to ignore the truth. Thanks, Alberto Victor Batista, Esquire 12/23/98 HELLO, I am in the process of divorcing a criminal defense lawyer. It's
hell, I feel like I am the one that will be dead. There were criminals that were Sincerely, P Ps Where can i find the shirt? I would love to order one. 10/30/98 As this is public domain information, let's use correct language: You are providing excellent community service! Keep up the good work for the benefit of ALL. Regards, (redacted) 10/29/98 I found your site not only informative and stimulating; it gave me an excuse to ignore my customer's telephone calls. If you post this message, I will sue you. sincerely, 10/16/98 All the incidents you cite appear to be acts of god, so that should not be a separate category Clifford Bowen We, at deadlawyers.com, have always thought that we were on a mission. 10/10/98 Let me know when you guys get the Tee-shirts in!!!!!!!! Your sight is
GREAT!!!! 10/9/98 The site is beyond my wildest imagination! You are truly warped. I have been divorced so I know first hand what kind of scum bags lawyers are!!! As for M.R. Wilson, that letter is a great example of how little intelligence it takes to become a lawyer. Bill 9/20/98 I have no respect for lawyers. In general, lawyers have no morals, no ethics, and no scruples. Defense attorneys suffer the most from my wrath. In defending their criminal clients who are obviously guilty they come up with many lame excuses. Where is the justice in a system that allows a lawyer to defend a known murderer, knowing full well that his client is guilty as hell? Makes me wonder whose side these lawyers are on. On the side of the criminals, as they it appear? Or are they on the side of justice, which they appear not to be? They are really a disgrace. I'd like to see them defend a killer that has killed one of their parents or children. Would they still try to get him off the hook? Of course not, but if it was a stranger who was murdered, the lawyer would defend him fervently. I think the system is not working. Lawyers are hypocrites, liars, cheats, and thieves. Lawyers defending the scum of society knowing that their clients are guilty are just as guilty as the criminals themselves. Sal Martorano 8/24/98 The graphics are beautiful on this web page. Who designed it? (blush) 8/19/98 I love it. How do I get a t-shirt? Bryner, M. Candice I think the supply will remain constant. 8/12/98 As a lawyer, I commend this memoriam to lawyers killed in the line of duty. Civilization relies on those who are willing to stand in the line of fire to preserve (or salvage) the remnants of families that have self-destructed, and to rescue the spouses and children who otherwise have no defense against abuse. M. R. Wilson 7/19/98
Hal Johnson 7/16/98
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Paul I. Roda, M.D., F.A.C.P. paulroda@epix.net 6/25/98
www.deadlawyers.com, see it again - for the very first time. 6/22/98 Howdy Bruce Amberden 6/18/89
Richard Silverman 6/12/98
As a lawyer, and in the long line of acting tradition maintained by our profession and best exemplified by OJ's lawyers, I was truly shocked and amazed, shocked that such a site had not been previously promulgated by Justice Clarence Thomas, and amazed that it had been done so well, even by non-attorneys. My favorite part is the list of dead Clinton lawyers. Let me only say this to that, I don't know what I'm saying and I guess that puts me on the hit list for Clinton's henchmen. May your settlements be high David L. Nelson 6/3/98 NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS YOUR SITE KICKS ASS, AND I SENT IT TO 83 OF MY 5/22/98 As Workers' Compensation manager for the world's largest battery
manufacturer, I have enjoyed interacting with both honorable lawyers and the usual sleaze
that suck in injury victims in order to skim 20% off the top. I learned of your web
site from a cyberjunkie at work and hold it to be well above the mundane, if not near the
sublime. It is certainly pristine (look it up in the dictionary).
It brings to mind the query, "is the only good lawyer a dead lawyer".
Probably a bit extreme ... HOWEVER, if you research your recent executions in
the State of Texas, you will find that about a year ago, a convicted murderer was executed
after only 18 MONTHS on death row. His crime? Murdering two lawyers. (In
Washington, DC, he would probably have received only a citation for hunting out of season.
In Arkansas, he would have been elected Lt. Governor). It is wonderful to see the sick side of my brother's nature being put to good
use. Good fortune to you both. I will be checking in for updates. This is the best web site I have ever seen! Keep on doing it! Cathy I really appreciate your barbs and witticisms keep up the good work.
lose the laser beams John Cornejo Loved your dead lawyers site. Wished I had seen my attorney's name there and was very disappointed. Expect eventually someone will take care of the problem. Seriously, they are the curse of society, and in Washington state are nothing but a crooked bunch of gangsters, with no ethics or backbone. Judith (our first lawyer writes, so he gets the complete plug) I just read your "stinging" critique by Pete. I am a lawyer. I
thought that was why I found this site so funny. Just wanted to say I love your web site. Nina I visited your site for the first time today, and I must say, I like it. Tom- very cool site. woody is still learning how to play w/e-mail.
I would like to say that your site, supposedly containing various jokes about lawyers is not funny, but extremely distasteful. Not one of the articles has a light-hearted sense to it, but rather a sad, tragic sense that you obviously did not pick up on in the least bit. Oh my! On Friday, April 24, we at deadlawyers received the following stinging critique: I find it amazing that you would actually take the time to make such a site. Are you the recipient of bad legal advice? Perhaps you were rejected from law school. Don't feel bad, I'm sure it wasn't your warped sense of what is humorous and/or just, but probably your inability to spell. Better luck next time, Pete Well, Pete, after reading your letter we called an emergency meeting of the deadlawyers steering committee, and discussed taking down the site. After hours of heated debate we finally concluded that you were right. Spelling is important. We have severely reprimanded the secretary responsible for the errors. Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. |